why I advise against the new party "freedom" to choose
Wednesday, February 16, 2011
Hardy Weinberg Problems Set Dragons Answers
"The respectable conservatives have no excuse not to, they know better, and yet they opt out of fear of being insulted to, they could for the long-term good deal of all, but they choose to isolate herself, for fear of short-term inconvenience caused to suffer. you are what make possible the liberal dystopia. "
Alex Kurtagić
self-PI, where freedom was praised in the past few weeks until you're no longer seems to recognize that something is wrong. Thorsten M. writes
" bad, in fact, when the project by" eternal yesterday ", nationalists, anti-Semites or Racists even before the establishment in the public perception would be ruined, "and groping times so again in the eternal distance event. But "Even otherwise, one has the uncomfortable feeling that the open process of forming opinions of the party program worth 2.0 conservative approaches, such as in the abortion issue could plow under. But would it be so bad if our children in poor country once again aufkäme a discussion whether to take at least the payment of social-therapeutic abortion services out of the box office? (If the general public also will pay for it, that "Germany is abolishing?)
on his blog
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can . check Völkers claim
The first minus point, could forgive the one, then, is that a say in this party can not even Maybe that due to the model, the PVV Geert Wilders, which consists of two people. Wilders as a legal person and Wilder as a private person. In Holland goes, failed in Germany One-man party against the party law.
Founding weeks of freedom have been turbulent. When I heard that they had kicked out the ex-Pirate King and Aaron also two colleagues estimated Blogger (Manfred Kleine-Hartlage and DeeEx) had with her fingers in the game, I drew the long-awaited hope of political renewal in Germany.
But first, it is different ...
suddenly exactly why DeeEx had done to the party the freedom to Germany and the world's climate is no longer repairable damage.
Stadtkewitz then drove to Jerusalem along with other European rights, which do not have rights, a write statement , has found the Manfred
clear words. By Manfred incidentally is also the very successful introduction to the basic program , the freedom from the power supply resumed
because it was highway. Non-heterosexual sexual, German non-German origin and atheistic non-Christians could be offended and did it well too, because Manfred had some talks about the Christian roots of the West.
This policy statement has now been
Intranet set up, with the alleged aim is to produce version "2.0" to . Since I have nothing else to do, I wasted much time and energy to join the discussion to there. I met good people, idiots, re-educated and better knowledge - in short, the Greens can not be worse. I want to not publish the endless legs Nazi, anti-Semitism accusations and distancing of different users of the intranet, everybody can register there and read along. You have not a member of the party or meet other conditions. Here I just want some comments, I have set themselves and shadow king there and imagine some of the responses.
The Intranet is managed by the way, kicked out and resumed Aaron King, This is so someone I would widersrprechen on principle even if he accidentally says something right times. See for yourself
is in "Program 1.0 the following:
Kairos 17:10
I must say that this discussion was very disappointed. What's on the other hand, say, to commit themselves to the German people, the patriotism and the Western values? If I "Occident", I mean of course the Christian tradition, because it has dominated Europe like nothing else. The Enlightenment and humanism have emerged from Christianity, in the Islamic world, for instance, the elucidation of yet, there where "modern" or "moderate" is, is an adjustment due to us.
What to say to the people's term? Of course, it excludes others. A Chinese is not a German, a Japanese, not a Turk. Every other nation defines itself shamelessly on ethnicity, We can also do this quietly. That does not mean we are not open to foreigners, on the contrary: Only if we know who we are, we can confidently confront guests.
There is nothing wrong to invite others to become German. That must be done in moderation, because it is usually done for the identity and that can only be done if you know what it means to belong to the German people. Where is the charm for the Turks or Americans are a proud to be a German to see if we dare not even call ourselves as such? What is lure him here because, unless the social security?
That's also not all "brown", but for any other people said as completely natural.
also means a commitment to Christianity is not that we wanted to establish a Christian theocracy. I myself do not believe in the Christian God, but I recognize that Christianity has shaped Europe and in principle very well (compare for example with the Islamic World). Christianity is one of the roots of our culture, like the Greco-Roman heritage, the Enlightenment and so on. If we cut off these roots, we are as isolated in time and space and have no hold over. This has nothing to do with freedom.
aak 18:00
No one says that we should cut off these roots. A commitment to Germany and its diverse cultural roots, is still a matter of course. Parties are only measured by what they offer concrete suggestions for solutions to have. The proposal of "newspeak," Brecht's "Children's Hymn" to become the new national anthem, I like that. That is patriotic in a nice way - and Brecht may well suspect not a "right" to be.
Kairos 21:05
I do not know what to our "third verse" is suspended. Unity and justice and freedom are the values that should guide us.
Chergez 00:20
What Brecht does not deter the SED has to go with bitter sarcasm. I believe Hoffmann von Fallersleben also beautiful, but Brecht is to blame for the Stalinist terror petty ...
. (...)
: Children anthem
submissive is not everything! The "Hymn" was created in 1950, but it is politically correct as of 2010! Therefore see the king and the others, too, that you should take. If we need one in Germany, then more
political correctness, more commitments to peace, international understanding and humanity -. And of course more asylum seekers, immigrants
Kairos 09:50
A society not only works because the people at the laws hold (which is only Minimum requirement). Also, there is not enough to speak the same language, if you do not yet understand (even the language of old and young is so different that there are problems of understanding). The "cultural self-evident", and the confidence that the other responds to my actions as I expect it is, only a foundation of trust (MKH can explain much better than me).
Multiculturalism does not therefore to greater understanding and tolerance, but solidified cultural misunderstandings. We mean by multiculturalism and kebab belly dancing, which Muslims believe, however, we offer they create a parallel Muslim society within our own.
How far that goes with the multicultural issues the story of a professor who said at the beginning of the study tour the students how to use a toilet brush.
If you look at the "cultural self-evident" leave can not (to me it sometimes happens that I am an allegedly drunken man robbed at Carnival. When I this insidious type of rip-off, the be postponed in need of help, in the cultural background of the offender related brought, I was called a Nazi, what will happen here now probably again).
Therefore, identity is not to discuss "unnecessary", but the foundation on which everything rests. The established parties are still so so colorless, because on the one hand, to speak each other, but no one "discriminate" want. It is not a crime to create a German party, the interests of the Germans (and only their) represents. Immigrant parties represented only interests of migrants, homosexuals lobbies only interests of gay and feminist organizations only interests of women.
But what is missing so far in our country is a party that is honest and consistently represents only the interests of the German people. This does not mean that we then all non-Germans will shoot the same or want to lynch any hetero gay organizations?
GerhardR 12:20
The invocation of German identity seems like a blank check with which one can justify anything. A convenient substitute for accurate watch and reflect.
time something concrete:
That's all to decide with a little common sense and sense of our civilized world, without the help of German identity.
PS: And the quoted Manfred K.-M., which holds so much of our Christian roots, should even consider whether they were held up in the Sermon on the Mount of Jewish patriotism and asked was: Who is my neighbor?
Kairos 12:42
No! It has also to adapt to the cultural certainties of my country, if you live here and I must adapt to the customs of foreign people living there. Cultural self-evident but are part of national identity. Search for the causes of their loss must also not for long: As I said, multiculturalism means that they are inapplicable be.
I find it sad that many here are concerned desperately to not merely "try to." Our German identity Why not?
to your PS, I would advise you to read the book, there is a MKH on the area you mentioned.
GerhardR 12:56
you write above, that national identity is the foundation on which everything rests. I do not agree. I'm pretty sure we agree on almost all aspects of civilized relations with each other could, without the help of the national identity. It is not yet therefore, already in his pajamas to sing the national anthem, but questions such as: language, violence in the family, religious beliefs vs. Basic rights, etc. This way, all European states have done. Anyone who wants to can, indeed like to be proud of Germany, but I see it as a private matter and not as a political goal.
(and so, as I said, the whole discussion read it on the intranet)
have is on the intranet of freedom is a taboo topic.
was repeatedly accused of being "spies NPD. Here are the posts by him
I can not hear the word! Nor will the claim on the part of Turkish migrants, they had a German passport and thus would be German. " We have to be powdered with the staple bag, if we do not realize that much more to keep their people than we do. Moreover, ethnicity is no question of papers, but one of race and genetics. Each cell in the body of a Turk includes a complete "Turkish" genome and thus differs fundamentally from that of a German. A Turk can no more papers by a German like a man by Umoperieren a woman can be (which is disputed by the gender-industry) or as a horse can be an act of will by a cow.
Only the offspring of the third generation can be German, on condition that the first and use the second generation German spouse. That did not work for most European nationals also excellent, but the Turks bring their spouses, thanks to the wonderful "Family reunification" chain, from Turkey here and continually produce more full-Turks. They are neither "guest workers" nor "refugees", but simply colonists who are waiting for our extinction to set up here its always traveling west Turkey. Just as they have provided work during the last thousand years from Inner Asia to the Balkans, and what should not succumb to the illusion that they would do that for us somewhere else.
China resisted this once popular with the Great Wall. We should have one.
Islam and the "Islamization" are not the problem. Islam would die out in Germany as a disease that causes no new infected more because most are immune to it. Based on the growth of the Islamic phenomena, we realize how strong we are "enriched" already with strangers. Also 25% Christian Africans would cause this effect, except that we then of "Africanization" or the like Would talk because culture destroyers have banned the word "alienation".
I will not support any political direction, which is less than a massive Expulsion of foreigners from Germany are satisfied. A policy for the German people should not be considered a "long-term goal" have, but must begin and aggressively represented, even at the risk of being decried as quite radical. This will happen sooner or later anyway. It must be the starting point, anything is possible on the basis of a German Germany.
But you can already ask why the Israelis (or Jews, which is often but not always the same) put so much emphasis on developing a "loyalty oath" of European Law and Politics or be generally of any political novice can.
We must above all Israel solidarity not forget that Germany is our first to tenth site. Must be. Kazakhstan, Papua New Guinea and Chile but also not to ask the leaders European small parties' commitment to the right of existence "of Kazakhstan, Papua New Guinea and Chile.
Israel must defend itself against its enemies, which are by no means schoolboys in their hatred. And these enemies do not just Palestinians or German "anti-Zionists of multicultural madness" are.
Zionism is a complex phenomenon, since it is about much more than just Israeli nationalism and expansionism. Striking is a certain double standard, and since then it's also about the situation in Germany, other European Countries and the USA: While the pro-Israeli lobby groups bark in all Western countries, each as "anti-Semites, that of a healthy love of country or a national consciousness is even suspected that Israel has itself from black people, because they allegedly" a danger to the Jewish character of the state "constituted. Imagine again what would ZdJ raise a fuss if a claimed, Turks were a threat to the character of the German Federal Republic ...
Zionism acts as if it were for the people of Israel nothing more than what he fought for all other nations. Left, but many rights are opposed to Zionism for the wrong reasons: because of the harsh treatment of Palestinians, Israel can look just as it left fear actually from Germany. But Zionism is doing outside the Middle East? In fact, he is the one recommended in the rest of the world multiculturalisation to anywhere to create multi-minority societies in which only the Jews are a minority among many more and something like "the majority" no longer exists.
That is, given the fact that only 1 / 3 of all Jews living in Israel and 2 / 3 live under other nations, From a Jewish perspective and the more pressing concerns.
And that becomes our problem, although we appreciate the Jews otherwise.
Therefore patriotic-minded people should support Israel - but of it as home for the entire Jewish people, not only for the third part.
When an average man is someone who is of the gender mainstreaming structures, what in government, EU and universities have now emerged, not directly benefited, it clears up, it is is, I can not imagine anything other than reaction as "such nonsense to consider the possible and encourage even with tax money?"
That would be my opinion a safe point for the freedom, for all other parties to leave the topic completely. GM is an area of Arkanpolitik that is conveyed by the media hardly sufficient to the majority about to get a picture. People are very well able to recognize the theory of indeterminate sex who is behind it to, as mistaken. It would be enough, therefore, be concerned about the issue of reasonably informed and then educate the people about it and say that we would tolerate as a nation not party like that.
One must to be aware that all that is reported in the media and what the public is informed, therefore, is only part of the policy. To set up exclusively for known issues, you can specify the policy, and the result can be a coherent whole.
In theory, the journalists will indeed make such stories generally known, but the fact is that this happens any more. In fact, the newspapers and even the television of the "government behind the government," said blatantly planned as a means of propaganda to the masses in a certain to guide the direction and they know some other things can not. In the areas that are illuminated at all publicly, have the destroyers of society free
Sure, you risk it, put into the corner of the "conspiracy crackpot" to be, even here in the forum. The problem does, however, by itself, if one understands the official version of reality as a hypothesis and the conspiracy theory view as an alternative hypothesis, which competes with the former at the higher plausibility. And the official version but often looks very old. This also applies to the other "conspiracy" Topics.
The media artist who studied the workings of the human psyche as well as the intellect for one hundred years, very extensive, and it was then - whether intentionally or due to carelessness is to discuss now idle - a mechanism made for mass persuasion, where each subject and serves to ensure that alternative versions are only with difficulty or not at all can be discussed.
, too, should be made known and not concealed fear. One must, however, think very carefully about how to do it best.
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comes Then, almost as a Christmas gift, a scolding from the operators. In the afternoon the same day (18:12:10) I had "one should swear an oath of allegiance in school" the following words in the "open discussion" with the title, written
Kairos 15:34
This is but here are a discussion forum, so please discuss it! With arguments!
If now open "to abolish nuclear power," one would be an issue, then I would be there objective justification for why I'm for nuclear power. I would not yell at him, he was better off with the Greens and not ask the admins to remove it.
this attitude terrorism, political correctness and the denunciation of the Left, we know this only too well. A civil rights party should be about something sublime.
What do the commentators concerned if they have adopted direct democracy first, and then suddenly people will vote "wrong" from? I do not know what a democracy that.
Interesting how a mob of guardians of public morals here takes over the sovereignty of interpretation and every commentator who has an opinion, they consider "too right", refers to the NDP.
And, yes, I also noticed that the majority appear to be, but says nothing about their legitimacy to act in this way.
we take the example with the debate about the limits of 37: [this subject was later deleted by the operators of the intranet] There are certainly good, pragmatic, moral and political arguments that we recognize the existing borders. Perhaps there are even good reasons on the subject to not talk. Then you should cite these reasons but also.
The argumentation "If you say X, are you a Nazi, then I do not even need to talk to you" is totalitarian. X is, moreover, can be extended (eg if Mrs. Herman Family, and the NPD, the place well, says Ms. Herman X or if the party "freedom" strikes Islam-critical notes and discuss restrictions on immigration, they say X). You can not dissociate you so much in the end it will not help, because you so that you are satisfied the distance requirement, already have put into the hair shirt.
I ask for more objectivity, even and especially in dealing with alleged NPDlern. If you have the better arguments, then it shares with that.
had to get rid of me now. Thank you for your attention!
evening came to this:
diefreiheit 18/12/2010 22:28
I've wondered briefly whether the us my or the many Nazi clubs swinging better people.
But only briefly ...
[in between was, instead of the nickname, the full name is displayed in good faith, their real name had been typed, no longer anonymous.] 12/19/2010 23:22
Then I had a little mitdiskutiert on education, but it already showed some signs of fatigue. My last attempt was the following message to the party:
right wing of the freedom
In the 3rd Case, I ask, do not reject the idea, but someone else in order to instruct. In the 2nd Case would be the "freedom" no. That the under 2 cracked scenario might be true, this thought came to me, unfortunately, as the preface to the website away and when I was in the forum to read some hints. On the first point is to say that it certainly would be a shame if some commentators on the forum to look for a new party would have. But if the "freedom" the liberal course runs, which is specified by King and others, then the likely number of conservative members - and in any case I scare.
I was - of course, one might almost say - still no reply to that letter and I expect any.
We have no true conservative force in the political landscape, at least none that could break the 5% hurdle. Conservatism is by the cartel of Marxists and liberals, which has the old parties in their hands, still ignored as not compatible with their own worldview.
fact, I fear that freedom in fact the 5% - hurdle cracks in the parliaments of feeding and influenced the politics in Germany. We do, such as "criticism of Islam is acceptable," as forming a political party representation of the guidelines of the blog "Politically Incorrect".
The policy statement 1.0 is still a complete immigration stop required at least to remedy the problems with the immigrants already, but this one will certainly defuse yet. In the intranet, there were many voices that have not tired of repeating that it is not Muslim immigration is a blessing for us and all except the Muslims to integrate more and now very great.
The people of Pro-NRW have been so beaten up regularly. Of freedom, the Greens have indeed been prohibited on the day. Who can answer why such a thing does not happen NPD and Republicans, who finds himself in interesting spiritual paths.
- is the subject of discussion - that is, is torn. It was probably the program to write tactics very conservative. We can only nod, while criticizing the Liberals broke every single point.
For all these reasons I can say no choice recommendation for the freedom and must
from collaboration with or membership strongly advise against.Only when we lose the fear that someone might call us "right", we can begin the fight.
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